Eugine_Nier comments on Some Tools For Optimizing Our Media Use - Less Wrong

2 Post author: mbitton24 13 February 2014 09:28PM

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 04 May 2014 03:38:31AM *  6 points [-]

Racism is bad
Sexism is bad

(..)

Belief without evidence is bad
Defining one’s terms before an argument is good

Note the contradiction between the two sets of memes above. The first set of memes involve condemning a vaguely defined concept and frequently involve encouraging people to believe things, e.g., that race and sex don't correlate with anything significant, despite nearly all the evidence suggesting otherwise.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 May 2014 07:10:15PM -1 points [-]

that race and sex don't correlate with anything significant

If you define “racism” and “sexism” that broadly, sure, but there are plenty of people who use the terms more narrowly, and wouldn't call David Epstein racist for pointing out that the Kalenjin comprise a sizeable fraction of marathon champions for genetic reasons.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 04 May 2014 10:44:11PM 2 points [-]

David Epstein racist for pointing out that the Kalenjin comprise a sizeable fraction of marathon champions for genetic reasons.

What about calling people like Richard J. Herrnstein and Charles Murray racists for pointing out the correlation between race and IQ?

Also mbitton24's claim was that said memes were "almost impossible to misuse", and some people do in fact define the terms very broadly.

By the way what do you think are reasonable definitions of the terms?

Comment author: [deleted] 06 May 2014 08:10:52AM *  1 point [-]

Also mbitton24's claim was that said memes were "almost impossible to misuse", and some people do in fact define the terms very broadly.

Good point. Grandparent retracted.

Tapping out.