Viliam_Bur comments on Steelmanning Young Earth Creationism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 17 February 2014 10:08:10AM *  5 points [-]

Steelmanning anything:

A witch did it, using logically unexplainable magic. Therefore, you cannot logically explain it, and I win!

What? That doesn't even make sense...

It might not make sense using your paradigms (such as science, evidence, or logic), but I am using a different paradigm (unexplainable magic defined by my whim), and I don't accept any refutations coming from your paradigm. In democracy, all paradigms are equal, and emotionally, I prefer my paradigm. Therefore, I win!

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 17 February 2014 03:55:19PM 4 points [-]

That's made of straw, not steel.

Comment author: JQuinton 18 February 2014 07:17:31PM 2 points [-]

Not really...

Presuppositionalism is a school of Christian apologetics that believes the Christian faith is the only basis for rational thought. It presupposes that the Bible is divine revelation and attempts to expose flaws in other worldviews. It claims that apart from presuppositions, one could not make sense of any human experience, and there can be no set of neutral assumptions from which to reason with a non-Christian.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 18 February 2014 07:33:30PM *  0 points [-]

That's not the best monster you can make out of hacked off pieces of "anything", sorry. That's just him mocking "anything".

Comment author: JQuinton 18 February 2014 09:32:08PM 0 points [-]

Well I agree that it's not a steelmanning, but it's also not a strawman either.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 17 February 2014 07:23:43PM 0 points [-]

For some it's an improvement in honesty, if not logical validity

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