I thought I provided enough links and references to point out the trade-off made by senescence.

I assumed that the links/references were to studies or other evidence of points made in the post rather than making new points, and since I didn't find the points in the post convincing so value of information seemed low, didn't want to open a bunch of new tabs/risk my browser choking on PDF's, and didn't feel up to reading more articles, etc. I didn't look at them. To some extent this was probably true for other anti-deathists who read the post.

My response seems to be that my whole post seems to be read wrongly. It is a defense of deathism. Not an attack on the opposite.

I got that. My points is: If you think the anti-deathist mindset leads to cultures not risking lives when they should (e.g. for high-value information), then how do you reconcile that with the observation of anti-deathists working on ventures like x-risk, FAI, Effective Altruism, etc. over extending their own lives?

I have seen too many comments and posts here seeing death as something unquestionable bad. I don't see it as an unquestionable good. Reverse stupidity is not intelligence. I tried to add some facts to this topic. But obviously I failed. Not that I didn't know the risk.

My honest opinion (and at the risk of this comment coming across as even more misleadingly nasty than it is actually intended) is that 'just trying to add facts' does not mean the reaction in the comments to this post was in error, because I think that regardless of what you were aiming to do, you revealed misunderstanding of the anti-deathist position and your thinking came across as confused and possibly even non-sequitur.

That is not the same. And it invites politics.

Yep; I was kidding, and aware that that would be an obnoxious/inflmmatory title to apply to oneself.

The optimum depends on the trade-offs made by aging versus the group benefits. I have not seen actual calculations in the material I surveyed so I cannot make an estimate. Presumably technology can tilt the balance otherwise we probably wouldn't already see a change in average life-span. Hypothetical future technology will likely tilt this much further (and singularity being a pole I wouldn't rule out infinite life-span in general). But as the basic premise - group benefits - will hold as long as there is a population of individuals some aging seems at least likely.

This makes me way more confused as to your position—that's not a criticism of you giving more information, just me relaying state—and this is starting to feel like one of those times where actual policies or specific opinions should be clarified and policy disagreements identified. Can you quote actual things LW'ers (preferably Eliezer) have said over which you have specific disagreements?

Done. Sorry.

Ah, don't worry about me; I'd already read HPMoR! :)