Metus comments on Open Thread for February 18-24 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 20 February 2014 10:20:38PM *  19 points [-]

LWers may find this interesting: someone may've finally figured out how to build a fully distributed prediction market (including distributed judging) on top of blockchains, dubbing it 'Truthcoin'.

The key idea is how judgment of a prediction market is carried out: holders of truthcoins submit encrypted votes 1/0 on every outstanding market, and rather than a simple majority vote, they're weighted by how well they mirror the overall consensus (across all markets they voted on) and paid out a share of trading fees based on that weight. This punishes deviation from the majority and reminds me of Bayesian truth serum.

Clever. I haven't been too impressed with the Bitcoin betting sites I've seen too far (some of them like Bets of Bitcoin are just atrocious), but this seems like a fully decentralized design. The problem is it's so complex that I don't see anyone implementing it anytime soon.

Comment author: Metus 21 February 2014 01:35:35AM 1 point [-]

Though prediction markets have their potential problems, this could be the first in a long series of ever better decentralised prediction markets. I wonder what the legalities will be, similar to how Intrade got into trouble with the US government over regulations regarding commodity derivatives.

Comment author: gwern 21 February 2014 01:39:39AM 0 points [-]

Who do you sue? :)

Comment author: Metus 21 February 2014 11:37:26AM 2 points [-]

There is always someone to sue. Maybe the SEC argues that anyone who runs the client is offering services that need a licence.

Comment author: ChristianKl 24 February 2014 08:49:42AM 2 points [-]

Then it will be hidden behind Tor.

Comment author: jaibot 25 February 2014 07:26:50PM *  0 points [-]

Maybe the SEC argues that running the TOR client is probable cause.

(Several iterations of "But what if" later...)

Maybe someone rules that encrypted or obfuscated communication is probable cause.

(I don't think this is likely, I just wanted to skip to the end of this line of thinking)

...actually, I wonder if anyone's tried to engineer a distributed steganographic cryptocurrency.