Eugine_Nier comments on LINK: In favor of niceness, community, and civilisation - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 February 2014 05:22:43AM *  3 points [-]

What do you mean by "complete pacifism"?

The way to fight someone how spreads lies about you is not to spread lies about them, it's to spread the truth about them.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 25 February 2014 09:47:10AM 1 point [-]

When I speak of fighting back, I'm talking about making them pay a cost, and not feeling constrained to play fair for their sake. They've forfeited that consideration.

If you have overriding reasons to tell the truth, do so. But not to preserve value for them. When someone attacks you, it's time to destroy values for them.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 26 February 2014 01:46:38AM -1 points [-]

When I speak of fighting back, I'm talking about making them pay a cost, and not feeling constrained to play fair for their sake.

Agreed, however, as I argue here the biggest reason for not lying for your cause isn't for their sake, it's for yours.