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Comment author: polymathwannabe 24 February 2014 04:50:07PM 1 point [-]

The techniques of the scientific method are universally valid; they're not contingent on a specific culture. If civilization was wiped today and we had to start from scratch, we would discover the same methods to ascertain natural laws and apply them to our purposes.

When we find an alien culture, I expect they will follow the same rules to find out what works and what is real (if they're advanced enough to use science).

Comment author: Mestroyer 24 February 2014 06:37:41PM 6 points [-]

Science is tailored to counteract human cognitive biases. Aliens might or might not have the same biases. AIs wouldn't need science.

For example, science says you make the hypothesis, then you run the test. You're supposed to make a prediction, not explain why something happened in retrospect. This is to prevent hindsight bias and rationalization from changing what we think is a consequence of our hypotheses. But the One True Way does not throw out evidence because humans are too weak to use it.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 25 February 2014 07:13:02AM 1 point [-]

Science is tailored to counteract human cognitive biases.

That isn't really clear to me. Science wasn't intelligently designed; it evolved. While it has different ideals and functions from other human institutions (such as religions and governments), it has a lot in common with them as a result of being a human institution. It has a many features that contribute to the well-being of its participants and the stability of their organizations, but that don't necessarily contribute much to its ostensible goal of finding truth.

For instance, it has been commonly observed that wrong ideas in science only die when their adherents do. Senior scientists have influence proportional to their past success, not their current accuracy. This serves the interests of individual humans in the system very well, by providing a comfortable old age for successful scientists. But it certainly does not counteract human cognitive biases; it works with them!

Yes, science has the effect of finding quite a lot of truth. And philosophers and historians of science can point to good reasons to expect science to be much better at this than other claimed methods such as mysticism or traditionalism. But science as an institution is tailored at least as much to self-sustenance through human biases, as to counteracting them.