shminux comments on How to teach to magical thinkers? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RichardKennaway 25 February 2014 11:53:26AM 4 points [-]

Consider starting small, with short, clear and engaging examples, like the Newcomb's problem, the PD or the Trolley problem, or the Milgram or Stanford experiments

Newcomb and Trolley problems are too removed from the real world to be useful topics for an introductory class, and I'd say the others are too advanced for an introductory class. All of them are controversial enough that you can't simply say, this is the right answer and all other answers are wrong.

Thinking aloud about how I might go about it (but without ever having done so) I wouldn't start with biases. I'd start on the positive topics of the truth being out there and what you must do to discover it. The virtues of rationality, with the vices (biases, error) introduced to illustrate how people go wrong. The 2,4,6 problem is about the right level of example to use, rather than exotic decision theory.

Comment author: shminux 25 February 2014 03:27:55PM -1 points [-]

I'd start on the positive topics of the truth being out there and what you must do to discover it.

Yeah, I thought about it, but then my personal ontology does not rely on the concept of objective truth, so I've been reluctant to suggest it. It is easy to imagine that postulating objective truth would likely devolve into a discussion of logical positivism and its issues, which is not what the OP wants.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 25 February 2014 04:02:35PM 3 points [-]

my personal ontology does not rely on the concept of objective truth

Against that background idea, how do you manage even to safely cross a road?

Comment author: shminux 25 February 2014 05:00:22PM 0 points [-]

Consider less strawman.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 25 February 2014 05:34:49PM *  4 points [-]

Sorry, I can't make any better guess as to what you mean, that would rule out the truth of what traffic is out there and what you must do to perceive it as valid concepts, while making crossing a road safely unproblematic.

Comment author: shminux 25 February 2014 06:17:54PM -1 points [-]

I posted about my ontological views multiple times, here is one. Not interested in revisiting this discussion here, since it's not relevant to the OP.