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Introduction I suspected that the type of stuff that gets posted in Rationality Quotes reinforces the mistaken way of throwing about the word rational. To test this, I set out to look at the first twenty rationality quotes in the most recent RQ thread. In the end I only looked at the first ten because it was taking more time and energy than would permit me to continue past that. (I'd only seen one of them before, namely the one that prompted me to make this comment.)
A look at the quotes
There might be an intended, implicit lesson here that would systematically improve thinking, but without more concrete examples and elaboration (I'm not sure what the exact mistake being pointed to is), we're left guessing what it might be. In cases like this where it's not clear, it's best to point out explicitly what the general habit of thought (cognitive algorithm) is that should be corrected, and how one should correct it, rather than to point in the vague direction of something highly specific going wrong.
Without context, I'm struggling to understand the meaning of this quote, too. The Paul Graham article it appears in, after a quick skim, does not appear to be teaching a general lesson about how to think; rather it appears to be making a specific observation. I don't feel like I've learned about a bad cognitive habit I had by reading this, or been taught a new useful way to think.
Although this again seems like it's vague enough that the range of possible interpretations is fairly broad, I feel like this is interpretable into useful advice. It doesn't make a clear point about habits of thought, though, and I had to consciously try to make up a plausible general lesson for it (just world fallacy), that I probably wouldn't have been able to think up if I didn't already know that general lesson.
I understand and like this quote. It feels like this quote is an antidote to a specific type of thought (patronising signalling of reverence for the wisdom of primitive tribes), and maybe more generally serves as an encouragement to revisit some of our cultural relativism/self-flagellation. But probably not very generalisable. (I note with amusement how unconvincing I find the cognitive process that generated this quote.)
There can be value to creating witty mottos for our endeavours (e.g. battling akrasia). But such battles aside, this does not feel like it's offering much insight into cognitive processes.
If I'm interpreting this correctly, then this can be taken as a quote about the difficulty of locating strong hypotheses. Not particularly epiphanic by Less Wrong standards, but it is clearer than some of the previous examples and does indeed allude to a general protocol.
Pretty good. General lesson: Without causal insight, we should be suspicious when a string of Promising Solutions fails. Applicable to solutions to problems in one's personal life. Observing an an analogue in tackling mathematical or philosophical problems, this suggests a general attitude to problem-solving of being suspicious of guessing solutions instead of striving for insight.
Good. General lesson: Apply reversal tests to complaints against novel approaches, to combat status quo bias.
Dual of quote before previous. At first I thought I understood this immediately. Then I noticed I was confused and had to remind myself what Taleb's antifragility concept actually is. I feel like it's something to do with doing that which works, regardless of whether we have a good understanding of why it works. I could guess at but am not sure of what the 'explain things you cannot do' part means.
Trope deconstruction making a nod to likelihood ratios. Could be taken as a general reminder to be alert to likelihood ratios and incentives to lie. Cool.
Conclusion Out of ten quotes, I would identify two as reinforcing general but basic principles of thought (hypothesis location, likelihood ratios), another that is useful and general (skepticism of Promising Solutions), one which is insightful and general (reversal tests for status quo biases), and one that I wasn't convinced I really grokked but which possibly taught a general lesson (antifragility).
I would call that maybe a score of 2.5 out of 10, in terms of quotes that might actually encourage improvement in general cognitive algorithms. I would therefore suggest something like one of the following:
(1) Be more rigorous in checking that quotes really are rationality quotes before posting them (2) Having two separate threads—one for rationality quotes and one for other quotes (3) Renaming 'Rationality Quotes' to 'Quotes' and just having the one thread. This might seem trivial but it at least decreases the association of non-rationality quotes to the concept of rationality.
I would also suggest that quote posters provide longer quotes to provide context or write the context themselves, and explain the lesson behind the quotes. Some of the above quotes seemed obvious at first, but I mysteriously found that when I tried to formulate them crisply, I found them hard to pin down.