Lumifer comments on "Smarter than us" is out! - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 26 February 2014 06:04:18PM *  3 points [-]

Self-publishing ... is a form of dark arts

There can be a lot of valid reasons to self-publish besides"tak[ing] advantage of people's ignorance".

Traditional publishing is close to becoming an atavism, a vestigial remnant of the pre-digital age.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 February 2014 09:20:04AM 2 points [-]

Only in the minds of "yay future!" sorts of people. My parents think self-publishing a non-fiction book is sketchy, and they have every valid reason for believing this. I agree with them, in fact.

Take the "outside view": if someone handed you a book and said, "This describes the most important scientific and moral challenge of our times", and you had never heard of MIRI/FHI/CFAR/LW in any way whatsoever, what are the questions you're going to ask? They'll almost definitely be credibility questions; you want to read a book that's been edited well and comes from some kind of well-known intellectual expert on the topic being discussed, preferably one from very credible institutions like academia and government. You're a non-expert, after all, and it's not worth your time becoming an expert on some obscure, highly technical topic just to judge whether you should spend $30 on a book.

Luckily, information above indicates that FHI is publishing Superintelligence under the Oxford University label, with actual academic credentials and such, in hardback print. I'll be waiting for that one before I recommend anything to "the normals".

Comment author: Lumifer 28 February 2014 01:09:12AM 1 point [-]

"This describes the most important scientific and moral challenge of our times", and you had never heard of MIRI/FHI/CFAR/LW in any way whatsoever, what are the questions you're going to ask?

"Why do you think so?"

They'll almost definitely be credibility questions;

Not in my case.

you want to read a book that's been edited well and comes from some kind of well-known intellectual expert on the topic being discussed, preferably one from very credible institutions like academia and government.

Oh, certainly not. Government is pretty much the opposite of a "credible institution" and as to academia, it depends on the field.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 March 2014 08:50:01AM 0 points [-]

Do you think your views on this matter are typical of the audience to whom the book is targeted?

Comment author: V_V 26 February 2014 06:45:17PM 1 point [-]

Traditional publishing is close to becoming an atavism, a vestigial remnant of the pre-digital age.

Digital or not, the fact that an article or book has passed the filter of a reputable publisher provides useful evidence in estimating its quality.

That's most obvious for scientific publishing, where publishers employ expert editors and peer review. Publication of material intended for non-technical audiences has to meet lower standards, but there is still some level of editorial oversight.

Comment author: Lumifer 26 February 2014 07:06:59PM *  1 point [-]

Digital or not, the fact that an article or book has passed the filter of a reputable publisher provides useful evidence in estimating its quality.

Yep, the word for that is curating and it is a common and valuable activity. Art museums, for example, play a similar role. On the web brand-name blog collections (e.g. the Gawker stable) is also basically about the same thing -- in this particular case, though, I don't know if we're talking about quality... :-D