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Comment author: Lumifer 26 February 2014 06:27:50PM 3 points [-]

2 things come to my mind as examples

Notably, both are fiction.

So, what would a rational story be about? Health and Happiness sound like good bets. It should incorporate elements described by religious mysticism, stuff like Love, Joy, Strength, Peace, Trust, etc. It should position itself to the current effort to find common ground... like the Charter for Compassion. It should be about a long journey of discovering the power of love.

<rolls eyes> And what exactly would make that story "rational"? Pray to St.Bayes to discover the power of love? X-0

Comment author: terasinube 02 March 2014 05:34:31PM 0 points [-]

I think a fidelity to the truth will make the story rational. I would love a story without slips into magikal thinking.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 March 2014 04:25:42PM *  1 point [-]

I think a fidelity to the truth will make the story rational.

What do you call "the truth" in the context of a fictional story?

Comment author: terasinube 03 March 2014 04:45:22PM -1 points [-]

The truth I was referring in the previous comment is Scientific understanding.

Also, when I said story I did not meant a work of fiction but more like an work of vision.

Something like a reimagining of what life could be for the human race and the commitment to implement that vision as expressed by the people telling the story and living the story.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 March 2014 05:12:30PM 0 points [-]

The truth I was referring in the previous comment is Scientific understanding.

I don't understand what these words mean to you.

Something like a reimagining of what life could be for the human race and the commitment to implement that vision as expressed by the people telling the story and living the story.

I still don't understand. What does "fidelity to the truth" mean in the context of ideology? Science doesn't tell you what your values should be.

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