Eugine_Nier comments on Rationality Quotes March 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: James_Miller 01 March 2014 05:27:27PM *  22 points [-]

[A]lmost no innovative programs work, in the sense of reliably demonstrating benefits in excess of costs in replicated RCTs [randomized controlled trials]. Only about 10 percent of new social programs in fields like education, criminology and social welfare demonstrate statistically significant benefits in RCTs. When presented with an intelligent-sounding program endorsed by experts in the topic, our rational Bayesian prior ought to be “It is very likely that this program would fail to demonstrate improvement versus current practice if I tested it.”

In other words, discovering program improvements that really work is extremely hard. We labor in the dark -- scratching and clawing for tiny scraps of causal insight.

Megan McArdle quoting or paraphrasing Jim Manzi.

[Edited in response to Kaj's comment.]

Comment author: Will_Sawin 01 March 2014 06:57:46PM 6 points [-]

10% isn't that bad as long as you continue the programs that were found to succeed and stop the programs that were found to fail. Come up with 10 intelligent-sounding ideas, obtain expert endorsements, do 10 randomized controlled trials, get 1 significant improvement. Then repeat.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 March 2014 07:20:31PM 4 points [-]

Unfortunately, governments are really bad at doing this.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 02 March 2014 12:21:46AM 28 points [-]

Humans in general are very bad at this. The only reason capitalism works is that the losing experiments run out of money.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 03 March 2014 07:08:55AM 9 points [-]

The only reason capitalism works is that the losing experiments run out of money.

That's a very powerful reason.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 03 March 2014 05:31:05PM 1 point [-]

True, but that doesn't mean we're laboring in the dark. It just means we've got our eyes closed.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 04 March 2014 01:48:54AM -1 points [-]

Unfortunately, the people involved have an incentive to keep them closed.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 04 March 2014 02:42:39AM 1 point [-]

I don't think that's really relevant to the original quote.