IlyaShpitser comments on Open Thread: March 4 - 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 06 March 2014 03:29:06PM 3 points [-]

A who's who chart with the power players would be a good start.

But it's hard to ask the right questions without having a background. I would have never asked whether the Egyptian military has a problem with Mubarak following Washington consensus policies. Yet it's something very important for understanding why they allowed the mob to remove Mubarak from power. It's also the kind of thing that you don't get to read in Western mainstream media.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 08 March 2014 05:17:18PM *  2 points [-]

By the way, I am not avoiding this question, I simply have no useful information to give you.

The non-obvious part is the Ukrainian government. I can say that Russia is not entirely incorrect when it claims there are radical elements there, but I do not think these elements form anywhere near the dominant majority (a similar situation with iffy radical elements often happens in parlamentary democracies).

The issue also is that Russia uses "fascist" as a rather flexible label. For example, the "Nashi" ("Ours") youth group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashi_(youth_movement%29 http://www.nashi.su/

is called an "anti-fascist" youth organization, but is precisely the opposite (heavy shades of Hitler youth).

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 March 2014 11:11:05PM 0 points [-]

Those two pieces are both useful information. On their own not enough but they help with building the full picture. Knowing things is hard.