CronoDAS comments on Overcoming the Loebian obstacle using evidence logic - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CronoDAS 15 March 2014 09:16:01AM 1 point [-]

Does Lob's Theorem hold in intuitionistic logic?

Comment author: [deleted] 08 December 2014 08:24:56PM 0 points [-]

The Double-Negation Translation says that a classically equivalent proposition does hold in intuitionistic logic.

Comment author: Squark 15 March 2014 10:49:41AM 0 points [-]

I think it doesn't. However, I suspect it doesn't allow to achieve self-trust in AI. I don't really understand intuitionistic logic, but if we only admit constructive proofs then Lucy won't be able to reason in full generality about Lucy2's reasoning, will she? Won't the step "Lucy2 took action A so there exists a proof that A is a good idea" fail since it doesn't constructively show the proof Lucy2 would find? It feels like intuitionistic logic overcomes the problem of "a proof that a proof exists" in a "degenerate" way, namely, since every proof is constructive "a proof that a proof exists" has to display an actual proof.

Comment author: CronoDAS 16 March 2014 02:49:33AM 2 points [-]
Comment author: Squark 16 March 2014 08:07:57AM 0 points [-]

I admit I haven't read Weaver's paper. Have to look into it. Thanks!