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paper-machine fairly well handled that one in terms of "Rule 1 of karma is you do not talk about karma". Also, it was not a point that was abandoned, but a word. It is a common technique here to taboo a word whose definition is under dispute, since arguing about definitions is a waste of time.
Since you do not seem to understand, what happened there is that your 'unpacking' did not convey what Vaniver's statement actually was intended to convey, so Vaniver replaced the word 'impulsive' with a more object-level description less amenable to misunderstanding.
This is not a good way to communicate. If you really don't see what in this language would make someone take your arguments less seriously, someone could explain.
Perhaps you are not familiar with the study of risk, but the phrase "overestimate risk" means "estimate risk to be larger than it really is", not "more important". Either you are too ill-informed about risk analysis to be involved in this conversation, or you are trolling.
Also, appeals to the dictionary are just about the worst thing you can do in a substantive argument. If there is a misunderstanding, then definitions (whether from a dictionary or not) are useful for resolving the misunderstanding. They are really not useful to prove a point about what's actually occurring.
This is a clear violation of the principle of charity.
And as a general rule, fixing your own bias is good, but accusing others of bias is bad. We must be particularly careful to remember that knowing about biases can hurt people. EDIT: Updating on this comment: It is useful to point out examples of bias in others; but do so in a way that does not score points in a debate, to be sure you're not fooling yourself..
You should not. Votes are an indication of whether the readers of this site would like to see more comments like yours. If you're getting feedback that you're making comments we wouldn't like on our site, and you consider that a 'badge of honor', then you're a troll and should actually be banned entirely.