peter_hurford comments on Effective Effective Altruism Fundraising and Movement-Building - Less Wrong

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Comment author: peter_hurford 28 March 2014 10:58:15PM 1 point [-]

Also, another consideration you haven't mentioned is the belief that focusing on improving the "product of EA" (e.g., quality of research, etc.) is better for movement building purposes than outright outreach. For example, Paul Christiano:

Sometimes “movement-building” is offered as an example of an activity with very high rates of returns. At the moment I am somewhat skeptical of these claims, and my suspicion is that it is more important for the “effective altruism” movement to have a fundamentally good product and to generally have our act together than for it to grow more rapidly, and I think one could also give a strong justification for prioritization research even if you were primarily interested in movement-building. But that is a much longer discussion.

This seems plausible to me, though I'm not completely convinced.

Comment author: lincolnquirk 29 March 2014 03:21:29AM 5 points [-]

"Movement building" can mean a ton of things. I would actually like to taboo it since it's so broad. We should evaluate individual ideas on what they actually achieve.

Things that EA folks have done which seem like they might be "movement building" --

  • giving TED talks
  • running the EA camp at Burning Man
  • putting on the EA Summit
  • founding GiveWell
  • posting on the EA Facebook page
  • pledging to give 10% of income

you see, these things are all quite different...

Comment author: jkaufman 30 March 2014 03:46:03AM *  3 points [-]

A few more examples of movement building:

  • Hosting/attending meetups
  • Writing blogposts
  • Getting media coverage
  • Coining terms
  • Introducing people to each other
  • Drawing Jack Chick-style pamphlets and handing them out on street corners