roryokane comments on Rationality Quotes April 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: roryokane 18 April 2014 01:26:11AM *  20 points [-]

“If only there were irrational people somewhere, insidiously believing stupid things, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and mock them. But the line dividing rationality and irrationality cuts through the mind of every human being. And who is willing to mock a piece of his own mind?”

(With apologies to Solzhenitsyn).

– Said Achmiz, in a comment on Slate Star Codex’s post “The Cowpox of Doubt”

Comment author: Vaniver 18 April 2014 04:04:42PM 3 points [-]

The original quotation on LW.

Comment author: Nornagest 18 April 2014 04:41:16PM -2 points [-]

I'm not sure that's quite in the spirit of the thread rules, what with how closely tied Slate Star Codex is to the LW community. But it's a good enough abuse of Solzhenitsyn that I'm upvoting it anyway.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 19 April 2014 04:01:32AM 3 points [-]

Am I the only one who finds it annoying how the "do not quote LW rule" has been creeping into ever broader interpretations?

Comment author: somnicule 19 April 2014 04:57:08AM 1 point [-]

Hmm. It's an interesting point.

I'm not entirely clear on the purpose of the rule. It makes sense to not just increase the redundancy of anything people have said in other threads that have already got a lot of attention, but I'm sure there's plenty of interesting stuff buried deep in comment threads that haven't got much light and might be worth sharing. Conversely, there will be some quotes here from outside LW/OB that a high proportion of readers have seen already.

So it's definitely something that made sense when the LW/OB community was smaller and there wasn't much good stuff that people weren't seeing anyway, but perhaps it's time to relax the rule a little bit, replace it with the substance.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 19 April 2014 08:10:58AM 4 points [-]

I believe the purpose was to bring material to LW from outside rather than quoting each other (and especially, quoting Eliezer), to avoid an echo chamber effect. There was once an experimental LW Quotes Thread, but the experiment has not been repeated.

I don't have a strong view about whether LW regulars posting on other LW regulars' blogs should be excluded from the quotes threads, but I incline against the practice. It was a good quote though.

Comment author: lmm 23 April 2014 11:00:34PM 1 point [-]

Which side do you incline against?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 24 April 2014 12:18:49PM 0 points [-]

Which side do you incline against?

Against having such quotes.

Comment author: Mark_Neznansky 19 April 2014 05:13:41AM 0 points [-]

I can't comment on the size (so LW is growing?), but I have a tingling memory that long time ago (several years back) people did post LW quotes. Since LW doesn't exist that long I suppose it was the case in its inception. I can't say for sure, but actually Eugine's post seems to suggest that as well; otherwise it wouldn't have been "creeping into". Either way, should be easy to check. I do, too, think it is worthwhile to put LW quotes. I remember (I do!) reading those and being led to read the original articles whence they came.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 19 April 2014 06:59:39AM 2 points [-]

I can't comment on the size (so LW is growing?), but I have a tingling memory that long time ago (several years back) people did post LW quotes.

I don't think LW/OB quotes were ever allowed, but MoR quotes used to be.

Comment author: gwern 02 May 2014 11:28:58PM 0 points [-]

I think we may have cracked down on Hanson quotes too.

Comment author: tut 19 April 2014 02:41:55PM 0 points [-]

There was a separate thread for that for a while.