Kaj_Sotala comments on AI risk, new executive summary - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Error 19 April 2014 04:18:29PM 9 points [-]

I was going to post this story in the open thread, but it seems relevant here:

So my partner and I went to see the new Captain America movie, and at one point there is a scene involving an AI/mind upload, along with a mention of an Operation Paperclip. And my first thought was "Is that a real thing, or is someone on the writing staff a Less Wronger doing a shoutout? Because that would be awesome."

Turns out it was a real thing. :-( Oh well.

Something more interesting happened afterward. I mentioned the connection to my partner, said paperclips were an inside joke here. She asked me to explain, so I gave her a (very) brief rundown of some LW thought on AI to provide context for the concept of a paperclipper. Part of the conversation went like this:

"So, next bit of context, just because an AI isn't actively evil doesn't mean it won't try to kill us."

To which she responded:

"Well, of course not. I mean, maybe it decides killing us will solve some other problem it has."

And I thought: That click Eliezer was talking about in the Sequences? This seems like a case of it. What makes it interesting is that my partner doesn't have a Mensa-class intellect or any significant exposure to the Less Wrong memeplex. Which suggests that clicking on the dangers of...call it non-ethical AI, as opposed to un-ethical, unless there's already a more standard term for the class of AI's that contains paperclippers but not Skynet...isn't limited to the high-IQ bubble.

That may not be news to MIRI, but it seemed worth commenting about here. Because we are a high IQ bubble. And that's part of why I like coming here. But I'm sure MIRI would be pleased to reach outside the bubble.

(of interest: Obviously the first connection she drew from dangerous AI was Skynet...but once I described the idea of an AI that was neutral-but-still-dangerous, the second connection she made was to Kyubey. And that felt sort-of-right to me. I told her that was the right idea but didn't go far enough.)

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 21 April 2014 09:59:54AM 1 point [-]

I've seen plenty of high-IQ folks actively resisting that particular click. I think it has more to do with something like your degree of cynicism rather than your IQ: if you like to think of most people as inherently good, and want to think of people as inherently good, then you may also want to resist the thought of AIs as being dangerous by default.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 21 April 2014 12:03:15PM *  1 point [-]

There's a significant difference between "might" and "by default"