V_V comments on Open Thread, April 27-May 4, 2014 - Less Wrong

0 Post author: NancyLebovitz 27 April 2014 08:34PM

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 April 2014 02:59:57PM 9 points [-]

To the extent that privilege claims are about ignorance, I think they're likely to have a point. To the extent that they're a claim that some people are guaranteed to be wrong, they're ad hominem.

Comment author: V_V 30 April 2014 07:35:00PM *  3 points [-]

To the extent that privilege claims are about ignorance,

Of course it is quite possible that people from certain backgrounds may tend to be ignorant about certain facts, but then when they say something factually incorrect in a public discussion, the correct answer is to just correct their errors with evidence and plausible arguments.
Saying "you are privileged" at best adds no information and sets a hostile tone, at worst, if you can't support your point with communicable evidence or plausible arguments, is an ad hominem.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 April 2014 08:02:48PM 2 points [-]

As I understand it, a problem the privilege model is designed to address is people who ignorant about important difficulties, and are unwilling to listen. "Privilege" raises the temperature enough to get some people to bend. Of course, psycho-chemistry being what it is, it gets other people to become more rigid, to melt down, or to explode.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 May 2014 02:32:52AM *  2 points [-]

"Privilege" raises the temperature enough to get some people to bend.

In a way that has no reason to correlate with the truth of the issue under discussion.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 May 2014 12:46:00PM -1 points [-]

None of the typical reactions to "privilege" are reliably related to the truth of the matter.

Comment author: taelor 02 May 2014 03:27:00AM -1 points [-]

That's another problem with overuse of the "priviledge" concept: the more people throw it around, the less punch it packs.