bramflakes comments on Rationality Quotes May 2014 - Less Wrong

4 Post author: elharo 01 May 2014 09:45AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (294)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: bramflakes 03 May 2014 09:11:42PM 2 points [-]

What like?

Comment author: tristanhaze 04 May 2014 01:37:28AM 18 points [-]

For my part, I've found the economic notions of opportunity cost and marginal utility to be like this.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 05 May 2014 05:48:33PM -2 points [-]

That's maths too.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 06 May 2014 09:10:39AM *  5 points [-]

The specific application of the math does add value.

Most obviously for the opportunity costs, on the math side you only have to understand the "minus" symbol, which pretty much everyone already does. With marginal utility you have to understand the "derivative", but you still have to apply it in a situation ouside of math class.

Comment author: TobyBartels 12 May 2014 04:04:37AM 2 points [-]

It's applied math, not the pure math that the OP was talking about. Furthermore, these can be useful ideas even when used purely qualitatively; then it's not even applied math (except in a sense that everything is math, if we make the math sufficiently imprecise).

Comment author: SolveIt 04 May 2014 12:57:27PM 4 points [-]

A good deal of the sequences seem to fall in this category. Conservation of expected evidence, for instance.

Comment author: Torello 04 May 2014 04:35:37AM 5 points [-]

"Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution"

— Theodosius Dobzhansky

The fact that a theory that can be stated in ten words frames an entire discipline is quite incredible. Compared to group theory and probability, it sure seems like an easier uploading process as well.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 May 2014 01:41:07PM *  3 points [-]

"Mathematics is about proving theorems based on axioms and other theorems" also frames a whole discipline.

A frame tells you something about a disciple but it doesn't tell you everything.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 04 May 2014 05:12:28AM 3 points [-]

What are the ten words or less in which evolution can be stated?

Comment author: Kawoomba 04 May 2014 07:43:44AM *  4 points [-]

warped by random change

what replicates stays around

always evolving

(More constraints! More constraints!)

change without motion

the lament of the red queen

coevolution

Comment author: Torello 04 May 2014 02:28:28PM 7 points [-]

"Multiply, vary, let the strongest live and the weakest die."

-Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

Comment author: Desrtopa 07 May 2014 05:35:22AM 3 points [-]

I think that Darwin would himself acknowledge that "fittest" is a more accurate rendition than "strongest," but whether the quote can be rendered in this way without breaking the ten words constraint comes down to a question of whether "unfittest" counts as a legit word.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 09 May 2014 03:20:38PM 2 points [-]

I think "fit" has become a free-floating standard rather than meaning "fitting into a particular environment".

Comment author: Nornagest 07 May 2014 06:34:01AM 1 point [-]

Maladapted, as an adjective? Though I suppose that's cheating a bit since it's a sense of adaptation that draws on an evolutionary metaphor.

Comment author: BloodyShrimp 04 May 2014 06:42:53AM *  3 points [-]

"We have what replicated better; noise permanently affects replicative ability"?

Comment author: infinityGroupoid 07 May 2014 12:49:04AM 2 points [-]

Natural Selection: the differential survival of replicators with heritable variation.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 May 2014 01:48:32PM 0 points [-]

When it comes to general concepts cybernetics is something to which a lot of people on LW don't have much exposure and cybernetics as central as knowing probability theory for understanding how the world works.

Basically any subject in which I invested a decent amount of thought produces lessons that are applicable to other topics. I even learned a lot in an activity like Salsa dancing that's useful in other contexts.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 May 2014 06:58:14PM 0 points [-]

When it comes to general concepts cybernetics is something to which a lot of people on LW don't have much exposure and cybernetics as central as knowing probability theory for understanding how the world works.

What introductory material about it would you recommend?

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 May 2014 08:33:21PM 3 points [-]

Unfortunately I don't have a good recommendation. Formally I learned about it in a physiology lecture at university and the professor said that there isn't a good textbook that he could use to teach us.

While searching around I found An Introduction of Cybernetics by Ross Ashby. It's might not be perfect but I think it's probably a good enough introduction.