roystgnr comments on Rationality Quotes May 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: roystgnr 05 May 2014 05:02:04PM 0 points [-]

We could even imagine cases where people underwent homeopathic treatments and saw improvements in their symptoms for that reason. The placebo effect is often a real thing, and is most effective when you don't believe what you're taking is a placebo.

If it were possible to keep homeopathy from being inexplicably muddled up with non-evidence-based naturopathy (where your treatment may have negative side effects), unfortunately mixed up with anti-"allopathy" (where you forgo a more medically-effective treatment), or inescapably tied to anti-epistemology in general, it might even be a net good on its own.

Comment author: roystgnr 06 May 2014 04:52:22PM 1 point [-]

If anyone has found that the placebo effect isn't real, making scientific history by publishing your discovery might be of higher utilty than downvoting my outdated information.

Comment author: Lumifer 06 May 2014 05:10:11PM 2 points [-]

If anyone has found that the placebo effect isn't real

The placebo effect is complicated. See e.g. this.

Comment author: roystgnr 07 May 2014 03:43:32PM 1 point [-]

True. But am I just being biased when I interpret that as support for my claim? "Sham acupuncture" and even placebo pills given to people who are told they're taking placebos both show significant positive effects. I'd be very surprised if placebo pills given to people who are told they're taking real "homeopathic" medicine didn't show real effects too.

Comment author: Lumifer 07 May 2014 04:23:55PM 0 points [-]

But am I just being biased when I interpret that as support for my claim?

What is your claim, precisely?

Sure, giving homeopathic pills to people is likely to make them feel better via placebo. But by the same reasoning, this will also work for voodoo rituals, holy water, and mind rays from outer space.