The_Duck comments on The Extended Living-Forever Strategy-Space - Less Wrong

10 Post author: Froolow 02 May 2014 02:15PM

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Comment author: The_Duck 03 May 2014 05:13:12PM *  8 points [-]

something like 'simulationist' preservation seems to me to be well within two orders of magnitude of the probability of cryonics - both rely on society finding your information and deciding to do something with it

I don't know if I agree with your estimate of the relative probabilities, but I admit that I exaggerated slightly to make my point. I agree that this strategy at least worth thinking about, especially if you think it is at all plausible that we are in a simulation. Something along these lines is the only one of the listed strategies that I thought had any merit.

A priori it seems hugely unlikely that with all of our ingenuity we can only come up with two plausible strategies for living forever (religion and cryonics)

I agree, and I also think we should try to think up other strategies. Here are some that people have already come up with besides cryonics and religion:

  • Figure out how to cure aging before you die.

  • Figure out how to upload brains before you die.

  • Create a powerful AI and delegate the problem to it (complementary to cryonics if the AI will only be created after you die).

Comment author: Froolow 04 May 2014 07:44:36AM 2 points [-]

This is an excellent comment, and it is extremely embarrassing for me that in a post on the plausible 'live forever' strategy space I missed three extremely plausible strategies for living forever, all of which are approximately complementary to cryonics (unless they're successful, in which case; why would you bother). I'd like to take this as evidence that many eyes on the 'live forever' problem genuinely does result in utility increase, but I think it is a more plausible explanation that I'm not very good at visualising the strategy space!