TobyBartels comments on A Dialogue On Doublethink - Less Wrong

52 Post author: BrienneYudkowsky 11 May 2014 07:38PM

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Comment author: TobyBartels 12 May 2014 05:53:16AM 1 point [-]

Would you advocate never using Dark Side techniques, or are these techniques reasonable in some situations?, even though, once you become a real master at rationality, they have to be left behind.

(Before I studied the Dark Arts, truth was truth and lies were lies. While I studied the Dark Arts, truth was not truth and lies were not lies. After I studied the Dark Arts, truth was truth and lies were lies.)

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 12 May 2014 08:07:30AM 4 points [-]

Just a sidenote: studying is not the same as using. It is worth studying Dark Arts techniques so you recognize when other people are trying to use them against you.

Comment author: TobyBartels 14 May 2014 10:41:37PM 0 points [-]

True indeed. Although in this case, even the using would be using them on yourself.