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67 Post author: Swimmer963 18 June 2014 04:00AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 24 June 2014 09:55:35PM 1 point [-]

See also Ch. 22 from HPMOR, and keep in mind that I am not Harry, I contain Harry, all the other characters, their whole universe, and everything that happens inside it. In other words, I am not Harry, I am the universe that responded to Harry.

Badass boasting from fictional evidence?

Yes, dear, some of us are programmers, we know about waterfalls.

If anyone here knew anything about the Waterfall Model, they'd know it was only ever proposed sarcastically, as a perfect example of how real engineering projects never work. "Agile" is pretty goddamn fake, too. There's no replacement for actually using your mind to reason about what project-planning steps have the greatest expected value at any given time, and to account for unknown unknowns (ie: debugging, other obstacles) as well.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 June 2014 05:51:22PM 0 points [-]

If anyone here knew anything about the Waterfall Model, they'd know it was only ever proposed sarcastically, as a perfect example of how real engineering projects never work

Yes, and I used it in that context: "We know about waterfalls" = "We know not to do waterfalls, so you don't need to tell us that". Thank you for that very charitable interpretation of my words.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 June 2014 05:48:03AM 0 points [-]

Well, when you start off a sentence with "Yes, dear", the dripping sarcasm can be read multiple ways, none of them very useful or nice.

Whatever. No point fighting over tone given shared goals.