FeepingCreature comments on Will AGI surprise the world? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 22 June 2014 02:47:05AM *  1 point [-]

This is my adopted long-term field -- though professionally I work as a bitcoin developer right now -- and those estimates are my own. 1-2 decades is based on existing AGI work such as OpenCog, and what is known about generalizations to narrow AI being done by Google and a few smaller startups. It is reasonable extrapolations based on published project plans, the authors' opinions, and my own evaluation of the code in the case of OpenCog. 5 years is what it would take if money were not a concern. 2-years is based on my own, unpublished simplification of the CogPrime architecture meant as a blitz to seed-stage oracle AGI, under the same money-is-no-concern conditions.

The only extrapolations I've seen around here, e.g. by lukeprog, involve statistically sampling AI researchers' opinions. Stuart Armstrong showed a year or two ago just how inaccurate this method is historically, as well as concrete reasons for why such statistical methods are useless in this case.

Comment author: FeepingCreature 30 June 2014 12:52:07AM *  1 point [-]

OpenCog

Hey, speaking as an AI layman, how do you rate the odds that a design based on OpenCog could foom? I haven't really dug into that codebase, but from reading the Wiki it's my impression that it's a bit of a heap left behind by multiple contributors trying to make different parts of it work for their own ends, and if a coherent whole could be wrought from it it would be too complex to feasibly understand itself. In that sense: how far out do you think OpenCog is from containing a complete operational causal model of its own codebase and operation? How much of it would have to be modified or rewritten to reach this point?