I'm sorry, I didn't realize 'within a few years' was so vague in English that it could easily embrace decades and I'm being tendentious in thinking that after 14 years we can safely call that prediction failed.
Got it - so the semantics of "a few years" is what you are basing the "failed prediction" claim on. Fair enough.
I have to say though that I read the "few years" part as an imprecise period relating to an imprecise qualitative prediction (that snow would become "rare and exciting"). Which as far as my family is concerned has been true. Again in an imprecise and qualitative way. Also, climate scientists do tend to think over a longer term, so a "few years" to a climate scientist could easily mean a few decades.
And you're right, no further 5 year period would make snow "a thing of the past" but we already agreed that was the Independent's headline, and not CRU's actual prediction. Rare snow in the 2020s is different from no snow in the 2020s.
Got it - so the semantics of "a few years" is what you are basing the "failed prediction" claim on. Fair enough.
No, that's just one of the failed predictions I am pointing out, which you are weirdly carping on because it didn't come with an exact number despite it being perfectly clear in ordinary language & every context that we are well past anything that could be called 'a few years'.
Which as far as my family is concerned has been true. Again in an imprecise and qualitative way.
Maybe your family should look at those Met ch...
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