Got it - so the semantics of "a few years" is what you are basing the "failed prediction" claim on. Fair enough.
No, that's just one of the failed predictions I am pointing out, which you are weirdly carping on because it didn't come with an exact number despite it being perfectly clear in ordinary language & every context that we are well past anything that could be called 'a few years'.
Which as far as my family is concerned has been true. Again in an imprecise and qualitative way.
Maybe your family should look at those Met charts you provided about 'air frost' and note how small the decline has been in the relevant period.
Also, climate scientists do tend to think over a longer term, so a "few years" to a climate scientist could easily mean a few decades.
And '20 years' could be 200 years, because y'know, they think on such a long horizon. And maybe the 'days' in Genesis were actually billions of years and it's an accurate description of the Big Bang!
And you're right, no further 5 year period would make snow "a thing of the past"
So we are agreed that the 20 year prediction is going to be false just like the others and there was no point discussing how there's still a chance.
I'm sorry, but you are still making inaccurate claims about what CRU predicted and over what timescales.
The 20 year prediction referred specifically to heavy snow becoming unexpected and causing chaos when it happens. I see no reason at all to believe that will be false, or that it will have only a slim chance of being true.
The vague "few year" claim referred to snow becoming "rare and exciting". But arguably, that was already true in 2000 at the time of the article (which was indeed kind of the point of the article). So it's not necess...
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