Desrtopa comments on Rationality Quotes July 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: James_Miller 06 July 2014 05:37:35PM 18 points [-]

Show me a republic, ancient or modern, in which there have been no decorations. Some people call them baubles. Well, it is by such baubles that one leads men.

Napoleon who would have approved of gamification.

Comment author: Desrtopa 08 July 2014 02:26:20AM 4 points [-]

I don't understand why he specifies "republic" when as far as I can see this properly applies to every society ever. Possibly given the political climate of the time he was using it in a more general way?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 12 July 2014 09:04:38AM 5 points [-]

Because he was the leader (not yet Emperor) of a republic founded on the ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity, and answering egalitarian objections to his creation of the Legion of Honour, not writing a treatise on forms and principles of government.

Comment author: Toggle 10 July 2014 07:21:17AM *  5 points [-]

I suspect that it helped to signal his status as a member of the philosophical tradition of the Enlightenment, and of the French Revolution that was framed in Enlightenment terms. To the extent that the Enlightenment was focused on experimentation with new forms of government, its adherents tended to favor the republic structurally. (Not universally, of course). He also pushed through a number of reforms with the same flavor, and his status in that group seems to have accounted for at least some of his popularity in France.

There may also be a subtle religious dimension here. Recall that the Enlightenment entertained Deism and a comparatively radical heterodoxy; using the word 'republic' might have evoked pagan Rome, great icons of the Renaissance (i.e. Florence), and his own enlightened France, while neatly skipping over the most notable Christian theocratic/monarchist governments.

Comment author: Azathoth123 12 July 2014 03:02:03AM 9 points [-]

Probably because he was responding to people who were arguing that these things were inappropriate in a republic.