Salutator comments on Change Contexts to Improve Arguments - Less Wrong

31 Post author: palladias 08 July 2014 03:51PM

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Comment author: Kawoomba 08 July 2014 07:24:00PM 4 points [-]

Depending on how close and dear someone's belief are to their own identity, a context of warmth and growth could work against going against a wrong belief full-bore. Especially when you notice how essential such a belief is to someone's identity. Like telling a child there's no Santa, to their face.

rather than just looking for weak points in mine

Probably the crux of our disagreement: Looking for weak points in your own and the interlocutor's belief is what you should be doing, with as few distractions as possible. (If correct beliefs were the overriding goal. Which, all protestations to the contrary aside, they mostly aren't.)

However, I totally get that there are often more important things than correcting someone else's wrong beliefs. Such as building shared experiences, creating a sense of community et coetera. Singing Kumbaya ;-).

Comment author: Salutator 09 July 2014 01:36:03AM 0 points [-]

You're treating looking for week points in your and the interlocutors belief as basically the same thing. That's almost the opposite of the truth, because there's a trade-off between those two things. If you're totally focused on the second thing, the first one is psychologically near impossible.