polymathwannabe comments on Jokes Thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: polymathwannabe 24 July 2014 02:41:37AM 10 points [-]

Not an actual joke, but every time I reread Ayn Rand's dictum "check your premises," I can hear in the distance Eliezer Yudkowsky discreetly coughing and muttering, "check your priors."

Comment author: Alsadius 25 July 2014 12:52:29AM 4 points [-]

Both of those authors are known to use English in nonstandard ways for sake of an argument, so I'm actually now wondering if those two are as synonymous as they look.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 25 July 2014 09:54:54AM 1 point [-]

Eliezer's version obviously includes probabilities. I don't know if Rand used any probabilistic premises, but on my very limited knowledge I would guess she didn't.

Comment author: Nornagest 26 July 2014 06:06:29AM 2 points [-]

Not as I recall, although I haven't read Ayn Rand in something like fifteen years. Her schtick was more wild extrapolations of non-probabilistic logic.

Comment author: Alsadius 28 July 2014 03:25:26PM 0 points [-]

Pretty much. I've actually gotten in a debate with a Randian on Facebook about what constitutes evidence. He doesn't seem to like Bayes' Theorem very much - he's busy talking about how we shouldn't refer to something as possible unless we have physical evidence of its possibility, because of epistemology.

Comment author: PrometheanFaun 01 August 2014 10:33:34PM *  1 point [-]

That's contrary to my experience of epistimology. It's just a word, define it however you want, but in both epistemic logic and pragmatics-stripped conventional usage, possibility is nothing more than a lack of disproof.