John_Maxwell_IV comments on The Correct Use of Analogy - Less Wrong

25 Post author: SilentCal 16 July 2014 09:07PM

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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 17 July 2014 07:02:06AM 8 points [-]

Perhaps you could see trying to think of analogies as sampling randomly in conceptspace from a reference class that the concept you are interested in belongs to.

Imagine a big book of short computer programs that simulate real-life phenomena. I'm working on a new program for a particular phenomenon I'm trying to model. I don't have much data about my phenomenon, and I'm trying to figure out if a recursive function (say) would accurately model the phenomenon. By looking through my book of programs, I can look at the frequency with which recursive functions seem to pop up when modeling reality and adjust my credence that the phenomenon can be modeled with a recursive function accordingly.

Choosing only to look at pages for phenomena that have some kind of isomorphism with the one I'm trying to model amounts to sampling from a smaller set of data points from a tighter reference class.

This suggests an obvious way to improve on reasoning by analogy: try to come up with a bunch of analogies, in a way that involves minimal motivated cognition (to ensure a representative sample), and then look at the fraction of the analogies for which a particular proposition holds (perhaps weighting more isomorphic analogies more heavily).

Comment author: jsalvatier 17 July 2014 10:52:27PM 1 point [-]

I like the idea of coming up with lots of analogies and averaging them or seeing if they predict things in common.

Comment author: SilentCal 21 July 2014 08:01:41PM 2 points [-]

I wouldn't trust myself to sample randomly, so I prefer an adversarial approach: try to generate analogies that support each conclusion, then use them to figure out what evidence to look for.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 21 July 2014 11:44:25PM *  0 points [-]

+1 for adversarial approaches in general. I find that I'm more creative thinking of arguments if I'm trying to think of arguments to support a particular conclusion. So in order to gain maximum insight, I should try to think of all possible conclusions and then brainstorm arguments in favor of each.