ialdabaoth comments on Why Are Individual IQ Differences OK? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ialdabaoth 04 January 2013 01:54:06PM 1 point [-]

If you could detect that easily, if everyone, just looking at you, could say "oh he's probably dumb" or "oh he's probably smart", it would greatly amplify the base unfairness of being slightly more or less intelligent. If skin color really has a strong correlation with intelligence, it would be somehow like tatooing people their IQ score on their forefront.

You seem to have the unstated assumption that fairness is desirable. What if the people who control policy WANT to perpetuate unfairness which happens to benefit them? What if perpetuating that unfairness would happen to benefit you? Why would you want to give up an advantage?

Comment author: kilobug 04 January 2013 02:09:22PM 1 point [-]

I consider fairness to be a terminal value, and it's not something uncommon in primates, as shown by the studies of ultimatum games. Fairness isn't the only terminal value, and when choosing between terminal values people will weight fairness differently, but fairness is a terminal values for humans, and I suspect it to be part of our CEV as well.

Comment author: Desrtopa 04 January 2013 02:15:35PM -1 points [-]

Then they'd have an incentive to perpetuate a belief that their race is smarter on average.

But people tend to look negatively on open attempts to create an uneven playing field. "If this person will try to change the playing field so that they personally come out ahead at others' expense, would they do the same at my expense?" Unless you know that you and this other person mutually see each other as ingroup members, and the groups they're disadvantaging as outgroup members, you'd have reason to suspect that they'd act against your social interests.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 04 January 2013 02:18:49PM 1 point [-]

Which is why part of the strategy always involves insuring that your in-group is the one holding all the normative power.