evand comments on Experiments 1: Learning trivia - Less Wrong

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Comment author: evand 20 July 2014 12:28:48PM 4 points [-]

How did you decide against using Anki / spaced repetition? To me it seems like a trivially obvious choice if your goal is to actually memorize a bunch of small facts.

Comment author: philh 21 July 2014 12:19:53PM 0 points [-]

Anki makes it easy to memorize facts, but not necessarily to bring them to mind unless you're explicitly searching for them.

I added the date of the first moon landing to my Anki deck with the intention of tweeting about it on the anniversary, and if you asked me when it was I could have told you: July 20th, 1969. But yesterday came and went, and I totally forgot. (Fortunately, I also remember that the first moonwalk was the day after the landing.)

Comment author: gwern 21 July 2014 03:27:27PM 0 points [-]

Anki makes it easy to memorize facts, but not necessarily to bring them to mind unless you're explicitly searching for them.

Which sounds useful for trivia. For example, I found Mnemosyne helpful studying for Quizbowl.

Comment author: evand 21 July 2014 02:27:35PM 0 points [-]

Do you believe that Anki is worse in that regard than some other approach? I feel like Anki is far from perfect, but basically a strict improvement over just reading and occasionally re-reading stuff.

In other words, I interpret your criticism as "there must be a better system out there, waiting for someone to find", not as "don't use Anki".

Comment author: casebash 21 July 2014 04:14:28AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, I did do a bit of review (reading back through my notes), but I kind of fell out of that habit because I became too busy. I never got round to trying to implement a spaced repetition system because higher priorities took over.

Comment author: evand 21 July 2014 02:30:25PM 0 points [-]

I would suggest that if your desired metric is anything remotely like "total number of trivia facts I can recall easily from a suitable prompt", then making Anki cards is obviously a better use of your time than reading more new articles. And extremely superior to making your own spaced repetition system. (That might change once you've used Anki enough to have identified shortcomings. But don't let daydreams of perfect systems prevent you from moving from a bad system to a good one.)