ialdabaoth comments on Fifty Shades of Self-Fulfilling Prophecy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shminux 23 July 2014 08:43:55PM *  11 points [-]

Interesting analysis, and somewhat surprising.

The number of people who finish a multi-chapter fan-fiction is, surprisingly, almost always 40-60% of the number who clicked on the first chapter, with the very best reaching 60%, and the misspelled, grammar-free, plot-free, alphabet-soup-vomit of ten-year-olds retaining about 40%.

Huh, that's unexpected.

perhaps 4,000 readers finished it.

I understand the calculation, but it seems very low, are you sure you haven't missed anything?

So what actually happened was that a moderately-popular fanfiction that had been read by a few thousand people was reported on in a way that misled publishers into thinking that it had millions of readers, when really, it just had an unusually large number of chapters.

If this was enough to get published, Worm would have been by now (not a fanfic, much better story, more readers, active online discussion and fanfic groups, large enough to be serialized into 10+ volumes). Yet from what I understand Wildbow has not had a single editor/publisher approach him yet.

I suspect that, while an inflated number of readers might bring a story to the attention of a decision maker in the publishing business, it is but one of many many factors going into a major decision like publishing a manuscript. 50SoG was simply lucky to get picked up, and lucky to do well. So the "self-fulfilling prophesy" bit is a big stretch.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 23 July 2014 09:01:34PM 5 points [-]

50SoG was also written by someone IN the publishing business. So, once again, it's not what you know; it's who you know.

Comment author: shminux 23 July 2014 09:10:53PM 3 points [-]

Probably, though I am not sure that "a former television executive" counts as being in the publishing business.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 23 July 2014 09:35:31PM 2 points [-]

Fair enough, but I think for 'people with connections to get something pushed through', it still counts.

Comment author: gwern 24 July 2014 07:50:38PM 6 points [-]

Depends on whether she used her connections. Did she know media people who wrangled her a personal invitation to talk to a book editor and shop her fanfic around, or did she get picked out of the slush pile or contacted independently with no particular connection to happening to be a former TV exec? (I don't know much of anything about how 'Master of the Universe' became the published '50 Shades of Gray'.)

Comment author: Chef 23 July 2014 11:59:46PM 3 points [-]

But more likely is that a television executive simply has their finger on the pulse of the type of garbage that the average person enjoys (and is willing to pay for either with dollars or their attention to advertisements).