ChristianKl comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, July 2014, chapter 102 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: solipsist 29 July 2014 02:14:05AM 3 points [-]

I'm not picky on definitions. "The entity Hermione called 'Mister Incredibly Suspicious Person' has Baba Yaga's memories." That definition is looser than it needs to be, but I'm giving you generous odds.

Resolution would be informal, with us PMing payment instructions to each other. The payment information I would send you would be cheap, non-sketchy, and anonymous for me. We might agree to call the bet off by February 28th 2014 if the bet is not resolved by then. If there's somehow a definitional dispute, we work it out, possibly with someone else on the forum arbitrating. Default option is to cancel the bet.

If I lose the bet I will laugh it off. You probably should not accept unless you would do the same.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 July 2014 12:57:42PM 0 points [-]

Are you betting that in a future chapter of HPMOR there will the explicit statement that Mr. Hat & Cloak is Baba Yaga? What happens to the bet if HPMOR ends without it being revealed who Mr.Hat&Cloak happens to be?

If I lose the bet I will laugh it off. You probably should not accept unless you would do the same.

So you aren't really up for betting?

Comment author: gwern 29 July 2014 04:01:52PM 6 points [-]

What happens to the bet if HPMOR ends without it being revealed who Mr.Hat&Cloak happens to be?

I think Yudkowsky is enough of a non-asshole that if that's the case, he'll consent to say whether Baba Yaga had anything to do with Hat & Cloak. Remember, he endorses betting on beliefs.

Comment author: solipsist 29 July 2014 04:09:35PM 1 point [-]

No, I am up for betting. If unforeseen plot developments make the resolution of the bet unclear, I want determining the winner to be casual and non-adversarial. I will not argue technicalities even if they could cause me to win.

What happens to the bet if HPMOR ends without it being revealed who Mr.Hat & Cloak happens to be?

That really depends. If the identity of Mr. Hat & Cloak remains unclear but Harry finds a black hat in Snape's trunk and a black cloak in Dumbledore's office, I would probably lose. If Harry figures out that Nicholas Flamel is really Baba Yaga and she's been hiding in Hogwarts all year, I would probably win. I'd be happy to let a mutual chosen third party arbitrate.

Comment author: Velorien 29 July 2014 01:22:15PM *  1 point [-]

What happens to the bet if HPMOR ends without it being revealed who Mr.Hat&Cloak happens to be?

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We might agree to call the bet off by February 28th 201[5] if the bet is not resolved by then. If there's somehow a definitional dispute, we work it out, possibly with someone else on the forum arbitrating. Default option is to cancel the bet.

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So you aren't really up for betting?

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If I lose the bet I will laugh it off. You probably should not accept unless you would do the same.

I believe he(?) means he will laugh off the loss of the money, in the sense of treating it as not a big deal.