Jiro comments on "All natural food" as an constrained optimisation problem - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jiro 29 July 2014 07:35:36PM *  4 points [-]

One supporting argument for this is that all natural or GM-free products tend to be more expensive or less satisfying than others, demonstrating less optimisation pressure.

Either that, or it's just plain old market segmentation and price discrimination which extracts more money from the more wealthy people who would buy such foods.

Comment author: Jiro 30 July 2014 03:50:46PM 1 point [-]

Slight correction. It's not more wealthy people, it's people willing to pay more, although they tend to be more wealthy as well.

Fair trade can also cause problems for the farmers because of price discrimination. If the manufacturer wants to price-discriminate, they only want to produce a limited amount of fair trade product. So the farmers produce fair trade raw material, but they can't sell all of it as fair trade, because the manufacturers only certify a limited quantity of it. The farmers who paid the increased cost of making fair trade material, but could not sell it as fair trade, lose out.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 July 2014 11:58:40AM 1 point [-]

BTW, “fair trade” products at my supermarket (not exactly an upscale kind of place) tend to be as cheap as other products of similar quality, or even cheaper.