aausch comments on Torture vs. Dust Specks - Less Wrong

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Comment author: aausch 12 February 2010 09:08:22PM -1 points [-]

The reasoning here seems very broken to me (I have no opinion on the conclusion yet):

Look at a version of the reverse dial. Say that you start with 3^^^3 people having 1000000 dust-specks a second rubbed in their eye, and 0 people tortured. Each time you turn the dial up by 1, 1 person is moved over from the "speck in the eye" list over to the "tortured for 50 years" list, and the frequency is reduced by 1 spec/second. Would you turn the dial up to 1000000?

Comment author: phob 27 July 2010 04:41:18PM 0 points [-]

So because there is a continuum between the right answer (lots of torture) and the wrong answer (3^^^3 horribly blinded people), you would rather blind those people?

Comment author: Manfred 09 December 2010 07:53:23PM 4 points [-]

Nah, he was pretty clearly challenging the use of induction in the above post.

The larger problem is assuming linearity in an obviously nonlinear situation - this also explains why the induction appears to work either way. Applying 1 pound of force to someone's kneecap is simply not 1/10th as bad as applying 10 pounds of force to someone's kneecap.