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41 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 30 October 2007 02:50AM

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Comment author: Tom_McCabe2 30 October 2007 03:25:11AM 6 points [-]

Does this analysis focus on pure, monotone utility, or does it include the huge ripple effect putting dust specks into so many people's eyes would have? Are these people with normal lives, or created specifically for this one experience?

Comment author: lockeandkeynes 07 July 2010 07:29:59PM 0 points [-]

I think you can be allowed to imagine that any ripple effect caused by someone getting a barely-noticeable dust speck in their eyes (perhaps it makes someone mad enough to beat his dog) would be about the same as that of the torture (perhaps the torturers go home and beat their dogs because they're so desensitized to torturing).

Comment author: VAuroch 23 January 2015 01:42:04PM 0 points [-]

The ripple effect is real, but as in Pascal's Wager, for every possible situation where the timing is critical and something bad will happen if you are distracted for a moment, there's a counterbalancing situation where the timing is critical and something bad will happen unless you are distracted for a moment, so those probably balance out into noise.

Comment author: DragonGod 08 June 2017 01:41:07PM 0 points [-]

I doubt this.

Comment author: VAuroch 15 June 2017 05:54:37AM 0 points [-]

Why?