Vaniver comments on Rationality Quotes August 2014 - Less Wrong

8 Post author: RolfAndreassen 04 August 2014 03:12AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (233)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: Vaniver 10 August 2014 10:22:58PM 2 points [-]

Yes, but requiring that soldiers do so makes the process of conquest less optimized, since it's easier for obvious reasons to get soldiers without this requirement than with it.

You seem to be focusing solely on cost; the difference between benefit and cost is what matters, and the benefits of a fighting force with shared values (particularly shared religious ones) are many and obvious.

Comment author: Jiro 11 August 2014 04:08:45PM 1 point [-]

By that reasoning, it's the Romans and the Mongols who are un-optimized for conquest.

Comment author: Azathoth123 12 August 2014 05:37:28AM 3 points [-]

The Mongols had the advantage of recruiting from a pool of steppe nomads with similar values.

The Roman Republic conquered the Mediterranean basin with an army consisting of Italians that were required to adopt Roman values before joining. Later the Roman legion adopted the looser system you described. Subsequently Roman legions would spend nearly as much effort fighting other Roman legions in civil wars as fighting Rome's enemies.