Viliam_Bur comments on Roles are Martial Arts for Agency - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Benito 05 August 2014 09:59:14PM *  14 points [-]

This isn't a very concrete comment, I'll just point out some connections I'm seeing with a few dual-process theories of mind. For instance, a la Robin Hanson, the actions that we take / signals that we give in near mode are especially telling to those around us, and his theory of identity is that we want to give off a set of reliable signals (so as to be trustworthy), and so it makes sense that there are various coherent personalities that we can run. Also, Joshua Greene makes the case for a dual-system theory of ethical decision making, that our inflexible yet highly efficient System 1 comes up with intuitions that let us run our every day lives, and our considered, yet highly inefficient System 2 comes up with our reflective, utilitarian judgements, and can allow us to overrule our intuitions sometimes. Your identity/role, in near mode, seems to tell your System 1 what to be thinking, and your System 2 can change what identity/role you're running at a given time.

I used to love Rock Band. One day when playing a particularly difficult guitar solo on expert I nailed 100%… except “I” didn’t do it at all. My eyes saw the notes, my hands executed them, and no where was I involved in the process. It was both exhilarating and creepy, and I basically dropped the game soon after.

One man's modus ponens...

See, I used to notice this in my guitar playing.

Now I'm a classically-trained concert musician.

I find it quite inteesting to watch my fingers do things that I don't feel I'm controlling. It's interesting if I notice I'm making a mistake, I can even shift my hand position to allow a better reach, without making a conscious decision to do so.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 06 August 2014 07:24:34AM 16 points [-]

One man's modus ponens...

One man's "creepy" is another man's "self-improvement". :D

Works for rationality, transhumanism, pickup arts, and even guitar playing.