Lumifer comments on Ethical frameworks are isomorphic - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 15 August 2014 07:58:55AM *  4 points [-]

This reminds me of a part of Zombie Sequence, specifically the Giant Lookup Table. Yes, you can approximate consequentialism by a sufficiently complex set of deontological rules, but the question is: Where did those rules come from? What process generated them?

If we somehow wouldn't have any consequentialist intuitions, what is that probability that we would invent a "don't murder" deontological rule, instead of all the possible alternatives? Actually, why would we even feel a need for having any rules?

Deontological rules seem analogical to a lookup table. They are precomputed answers to ethical questions. Yes, they may be correct. Yes, using them is probably much faster than trying to compute them from scratch. But the reason why we have these deontological rules instead of some other deontological rules is partly consequentialism and partly historical accidents.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 August 2014 02:55:57PM 3 points [-]

partly consequentialism and partly historical accidents

Memetic evolution as well. Communes and societies with "bad" deontological rules do not survive.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 August 2014 06:28:14PM 0 points [-]

Ethical memes don't randomly mutate or come into being full-formed. The victors look at why they won and why their opponent lost and adjust accordingly, which is more in line with the quote.