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Comment author: private_messaging 12 September 2014 02:14:19PM *  2 points [-]

To make copper, you need copper ore and charcoal and a fire and bellows out of animal hide. Those things weren't produced in a modern industrial manner until something known as "industrial revolution". You had a little town, it had a blacksmith, and the blacksmith could smelt his own iron (and copper, if he has the ore, as copper smelting is pretty easy). You'd be surprised how much technology existed entirely locally within a small village.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 September 2014 02:45:08PM *  4 points [-]

Actually, to make copper tools all you need is copper nuggets (which aren't all that rare) and a couple of rocks.

Humans made tools out of meteorite iron before they developed metallurgy.

Comment author: private_messaging 13 September 2014 05:47:25AM *  5 points [-]

Heh, yeah. But when you don't have transportation and it's just 10 people it may be difficult to find such things without a metal detector... I was just recalling one time I made a little bit of copper from low grade malachite, using a torch. It is really easily reduced from the ore. More easily than iron.