Azathoth123 comments on Why appearance matters or “to behave as if” - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Azathoth123 31 August 2014 08:56:57PM 4 points [-]

Prejudice is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case.

How exactly does this differ from a Bayesian prior?

The Pygmalion effect, or Rosenthal effect, is the phenomenon whereby the greater the expectation placed upon people, the better they perform.[1] (Or the observer thinks it would be so!) A corollary of the Pygmalion effect is the golem effect, in which low expectations lead to a decrease in performance. (wikipedia)

Um, there is a lot of debate about whether this effect exists.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 01 September 2014 01:24:21AM *  3 points [-]

How exactly does this differ from a Bayesian prior?

The key in discussing prejudice as something bad is to distinguish it from general Bayesian reasoning, which is good if done right.

Your question points to the failure of the OP to distinguish between good and bad Bayesian reasoning.

Comment author: AnnaLeptikon 31 August 2014 09:20:54PM 3 points [-]

Am I not allowed to call it "prejudice" if it's like a Bayesian prior?

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 September 2014 10:19:27AM 6 points [-]

It's not a matter of "allowed".

Given the nature of the website it would make sense for you to analyse the relationship between what you are saying and Bayesian priors if you want to convince people.

Comment author: kalium 31 August 2014 09:55:38PM -1 points [-]

In practice, it differs in that once an opinion is formed it's sticky and contrary evidence tends not to result in updating.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 01 September 2014 01:28:10AM *  4 points [-]

Or, it starts from a poor probability assignment in the first place.

Basically, prejudice as a bad thing is poor Bayesian reasoning, not all Bayesian reasoning. Unfortunately, many opponents of prejudice would insist on throwing out some good Bayesian reasoning as well.