Torello comments on Rationality Quotes September 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Torello 01 September 2014 07:06:59PM 4 points [-]

Perceiving magic is precisely the same thing as perceiving the limits of your own understanding.

-Jaron Lanier, Who Owns the Future?, (e-reader does not provide page number)

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 02 September 2014 12:00:46AM 9 points [-]

That doesn't seem quite true... if I'm confused while reading a textbook, I may be perceiving the limits of my understanding but not perceiving magic.

Comment author: soreff 06 September 2014 05:07:45AM 4 points [-]

Agreed. I think what Lanier should have said that a perception of magic is a subset of things one doesn't understand, rather than claiming that they are equal. Bugs that I am currently hunting but haven't nailed down are things I don't understand, but they certainly don't seem magical.

Comment author: Azathoth123 08 September 2014 03:10:21AM 5 points [-]

Bugs that I am currently hunting but haven't nailed down are things I don't understand, but they certainly don't seem magical.

At least you hope not.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 06 September 2014 01:54:37AM 2 points [-]

You could also be perceiving something way way past the limits of your own understanding, or alternately perceiving something which would be well within the limits of your understanding if you were looking at it from a different angle

Comment author: [deleted] 02 September 2014 02:43:38PM *  2 points [-]

The percept of magic, given its possible hallucination or implantation, is not necessarily an instance of limited understanding; certainly not in the relevant sense here, at least.