David_Gerard comments on "NRx" vs. "Prog" Assumptions: Locating the Sources of Disagreement Between Neoreactionaries and Progressives (Part 1) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 05 September 2014 12:06:37AM 1 point [-]

When Googling on Social Europe I only find them using the term progressivism to refer to the US. They may speak about about progressive policies but not use the term progressivism when speaking about European policies.

In terms of the flawed left-right spectrum, progressivism is the ideology of those between the socialists and the center.

In the European context I haven't heard the word progressivism as referring to third way policies. Third way policies usually get justified by saying that we have no other choice instead of being justified by themselves shaping society as we want society to be.

I think the Social Justice movement came out of postmodernism and Woodrow Wilsons progressivism was modern in nature.

Comment author: David_Gerard 05 September 2014 01:56:49PM 5 points [-]

I think the Social Justice movement came out of postmodernism

The term approximately as we know it was used by Catholics in the 19th Century, coined in the 1840s by Jesuit priest Luigi Taparelli. (How we got from there to Tumblr is an interesting journey but an approximately continuous one.)

Comment author: [deleted] 07 September 2014 01:23:24PM 6 points [-]

Is there a history of the term anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing how it got here from there.

Comment author: David_Gerard 07 September 2014 05:38:53PM *  3 points [-]

I've been desperately in search of a good history as I seek to decrappify the RW article on the topic, which is rather too cobbled-together (and the SJWiki one doesn't even try for a history). So if anyone has something handy ...

(The stereotypical Tumblr SJW phenomenon seems to have escaped academic notice. This actually surprised me when I went looking, given I know how rabid sociology students are in seeking out new subcultural study fodder.)