skeptical_lurker comments on "NRx" vs. "Prog" Assumptions: Locating the Sources of Disagreement Between Neoreactionaries and Progressives (Part 1) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: skeptical_lurker 06 September 2014 06:55:50PM *  -1 points [-]

I don't thing even Jim advocates going that far. His position is more, "if I run away from home no one will financially support me and my status will go through the floor".

It is true that the case I mentioned is a fairly extreme (but real) example, and not representative of arranged marriages in general. There is still a problem that even if it works in the case of benevolent and wise parents, it is really open to abuse.

Comment author: Azathoth123 07 September 2014 03:07:46AM 5 points [-]

The question is whether it on average works better than letting women chose their boyfriends and husbands without any parental oversight.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 07 September 2014 03:21:54AM *  -1 points [-]

Do you have an objective way to answer this question?

Also, are you proposing that men get to choose mates without parental oversight, possibly due to waiting longer to marry due to staying fertile longer?

Comment author: Azathoth123 07 September 2014 09:09:29PM 5 points [-]

The question is whether it on average works better than letting women chose their boyfriends and husbands without any parental oversight.

Do you have an objective way to answer this question?

You can compare happiness or fertility or whatever your favorite metric is between cultures that have different attitudes about this.

Also, are you proposing that men get to choose mates without parental oversight, possibly due to waiting longer to marry due to staying fertile longer?

Do men tend to make bad choices? Who are the male equivalents of Henry's wives?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 08 September 2014 08:07:16AM 1 point [-]

You can compare happiness or fertility or whatever your favorite metric is between cultures that have different attitudes about this.

Well, a quick search seems to indicate that there's no difference in average happyness and it seems probable that this could solve problems of dysgenics (assuming that the 'right sort of people' adopt this as quick or quicker than average) so I think I shall concede this point.

Do men tend to make bad choices? Who are the male equivalents of Henry's wives?

Everyone makes bad choices. Men are the victims of emotionally abusive relationship at the same rate as women (the technical term for this is 'pussy whipped') although women are abused physically more.