adamzerner comments on Is it a good idea to use Soylent once/twice a day? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: adamzerner 08 September 2014 05:29:35AM 1 point [-]

First, we do not understand human biochemistry and nutrition nearly well enough to start making complete food replacements.

I'm not proposing to use it as a complete food replacement, just as something to have once or twice a day. Because 1) it saves time, 2) it saves money, 3) it's more nutritious than the alternative and 4) it's less caloric/fattening/sugary/salty than the alternative.

Second, I like (real) food. I like the taste and the texture and the smells and everything that makes yumminess. Why in the world would I give it up?

I'm with you, food is great! But a lot of times I find myself scrambling to "get my meal out of the way" because I'm in a rush. I throw something together quickly or find something to eat on the go, and this doesn't give me that satisfaction you describe. I sense I'm not alone here. Aren't there times when you don't get to eat a satisfying meal, and you'd prefer something like Soylent instead because of the time, cost and nutritional benefits? You could still eat a nice dinner each day and real meals on the weekends when you have more time.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 September 2014 03:07:29PM 1 point [-]

I'm not proposing to use it as a complete food replacemen

Maybe you aren't, but Soylent is marketed as such.

Because 1) ... 2) ... 3) ... 4)

What is that "alternative" you're talking about? It's not made of straw, is it? :-)

Aren't there times when you don't get to eat a satisfying meal, and you'd prefer something like Soylent

Definitely not. Why would I drink goop when I can have real food instead? I don't find any of the time, cost, or nutrition arguments persuasive.

Comment author: kalium 08 September 2014 04:36:36PM -1 points [-]

I don't understand all these people saying that $3 a meal is cheap. Maybe their alternative is going out to a restaurant?

Comment author: [deleted] 08 September 2014 06:43:14PM 4 points [-]

I'm not one of these people, but I've heard that some people find almost all forms of cooking stressful, difficult and unsatisfying. These people suffer from increased food preparation costs that make $3/meal cheap by comparison.

Comment author: kalium 09 September 2014 02:29:52AM *  -1 points [-]

These people suffer from increased food preparation costs that make $3/meal cheap by comparison.

I don't think it's correct to describe these mental costs in dollar terms. It's more convenient, sure, but that's not the same thing as cheaper. But yeah, now that I think of it cereal is probably $0.50/meal (skip the milk, goes bad too fast) but you don't want that more than once a day, and it's reasonably plausible that it would be hard to get two decently proteiny frozen meals for under $8.50 if grocery store selection is poor in your area.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 September 2014 02:34:23AM 3 points [-]

I don't think it's correct to describe these mental costs in dollar terms.

Labor costs.

Comment author: kalium 09 September 2014 03:10:02AM 1 point [-]

It's not that easy to convert marginal labor into money. Getting a second job is a high transaction cost, and alternatives like online surveys don't pay well. I just don't buy this type of argument except for certain very far from universal situations, e.g. hourly workers who have some leeway to set their own schedules.

Comment author: ChristianKl 09 September 2014 09:14:34PM 2 points [-]

It really depends on your base income. A programmer who makes 100k a year is in a very different situation then a college student.

Comment author: zedzed 08 September 2014 06:33:01PM *  2 points [-]

Commercial soylent is overpriced. However, you can DIY for <$5/day, even if you need unusual amounts of food. Compare that to these numbers, which were the first thing I found. My $35/week is about 19% less than thriftiest food budget using conventional food for my gender/age. Plus I'm fairly large (but lean), active, and trying to add muscle/not lose weight, all of which should increase how much food I need relative to average.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 September 2014 04:48:08PM 0 points [-]

I am guessing that no Soylent aficionados cook :-)

And of course $3/meal is cheap compared to Starbucks lattes X-D

Comment author: therufs 24 September 2014 05:44:05PM 1 point [-]

I'm not sure I count as an "aficionado", but I am a regular consumer of soylent, and not only cook but enjoy doing so. (Just not first thing in the morning, or when I have places to be.)

Comment author: Punoxysm 08 September 2014 04:47:06PM 1 point [-]

Cheaper alternatives are either not-so-great nutritionally or take a decent amount of planning (especially if you're cooking for yourself alone).