We need enough discussion to come up with "a good plan now" rather than "a great plan next week."

There you are just naive. What you are doing now is unlikely to produce an actionable plan now or even next week. You might argue it's still worth fighting for your course and that it might win long-term but you are talking outside of the overton window and therefore are unlikely to move much.

Drug legalisation advocates were smart in focusing first on medical marijuana instead of wanting full legalisation in one go. If they hadn't made that strategic decision we probably wouldn't have gotten as far as we are at the moment.

All this screeching and pointing provides a valuable service to the servile: it allows them to worry about numbers and STEM problems without having to think about messy human networks, moral judgments, and other things that people on the autistic spectrum have major problems with.

On LW we talk quite a lot about moral judgments. and quite a lot simply prefer to reroute the trolley cart even when it's violates the individual rights of the person that get's run over. Utilitarianism is a moral philosophy even if you might not like it.

I find that Mark Newman and Kevin Kelly's statements on those subjects have a lot to offer, even though they tend to occasionally break down, or "stray from bayesian logic."

That's a strawman, quite a lot of people do make arguments on LW that might "stray from bayesian logic." That's not my criticism my criticism is that you confuse what you want to be true with finding out what's true.

Unless there are other philosophy salesmen here, who have take a good, long, hard look at the philosophy of the masses, from random street samplings, for over 13 years ...which I doubt.

Going on a mission doesn't increase the ability of a Mormon to really understand. It rather makes him more committed than warranted because he defends his beliefs day in day out. Mormonism does happen to be a religion that grows but it doesn't grow based on rational argument.