Annoyance comments on Teaching the Unteachable - Less Wrong

39 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 March 2009 11:14PM

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Comment author: Annoyance 04 March 2009 06:51:28PM 1 point [-]

"The literary industry that I called "excellence pornography" isn't very good at what it does. "

No, it's great at what it does. It's not very good at what it represents itself as attempting.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 04 March 2009 07:31:12PM *  8 points [-]

This point applies universally to everything, and as a result it's vacuous. Anything is the best at being what it actually is.

Comment author: Annoyance 05 March 2009 06:25:47PM 11 points [-]

Yes, it's a vacuous truth, which is why I object to its negation being offered as a reasonable statement.

Let's rephrase: excellence pornography is terrible at what it claims to do, but is excellent at what it is intended to do: get people to buy lots of it without ultimately reducing the market for itself.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 06 March 2009 12:12:06PM 0 points [-]

Take a look at what happened once more: you objected to your own misinterpretation of the original statement with its correct interpretation.

Comment author: thomblake 05 March 2009 09:34:35PM 3 points [-]

I don't think that's obvious. Remember that all observations are theory-laden. A bad hammer isn't a (really good (bad hammer)) it's just a (bad (hammer)). Once we establish what something is actually for, it can be evaluated on its merits.