MrMind comments on What's the right way to think about how much to give to charity? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MrMind 25 September 2014 09:09:34AM 2 points [-]

I'd like to chime in to counter the common intuitions seen in the other comments.

First, that the more you give, the better it is.
It's known that money has a powerful effect on human psyche, and I strongly doubt that pouring say a million dollar to a charity that is used to manage ~10K$ donations will suddenly multiply its efficency hundredfolds. More likely, that money will be wasted. Or given to local warlords. Or used to pay higher salaries, etc.
The unreasonable assumption here is that there's a direct path from money to utility for other people, as if charities were engines of perfect efficiency that burns money and churns out utility for poor people. Extremely unlikely, even for charities listed top tier on GiveWell.

The second assumption is that charity at all is a good way to spend large sums of money for improving the quality of life of those less fortunate.
I'm reminded of a meme that circulated last year: over the picture of a USB pen the slogan "This has saved more tree than Greenpeace". Kinda true, isn't it?
What if a much better way to improve people's life was to invest not in a charity, but in potentially fruitful R&D?

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 25 September 2014 10:28:44AM 12 points [-]

It's known that money has a powerful effect on human psyche, and I strongly doubt that pouring say a million dollar to a charity that is used to manage ~10K$ donations will suddenly multiply its efficency hundredfolds. More likely, that money will be wasted. Or given to local warlords. Or used to pay higher salaries, etc.

Why would you give to charities past the point where they have room for more funding?

The unreasonable assumption here is that there's a direct path from money to utility for other people, as if charities were engines of perfect efficiency that burns money and churns out utility for poor people. Extremely unlikely, even for charities listed top tier on GiveWell.

Life is full of uncertainty, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you're saving lives on expectation, it's worth doing.

I agree that investing in R&D can be a better way to improve the world than donating to traditional charities.

Comment author: [deleted] 26 September 2014 08:35:59PM 1 point [-]

If you're saving lives on expectation, it's worth doing.

Unless you are unhappy with "saving lives" as a proxy for ethical utility. A discussion of which you are surely aware.

Comment author: MrMind 26 September 2014 07:55:54AM *  -1 points [-]

Why would you give to charities past the point where they have room for more funding?

Because it's a very uncertain point

We have found very little helpful research or analysis on the "room for more funding" question, and feel that it is largely neglected in public discussions outside of GiveWell.

Also:

Life is full of uncertainty, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you're saving lives on expectation, it's worth doing.

Yes, unless you're neglecting a better way readily available. In which case you're paradoxically killing people on expectation.