bramflakes comments on Open thread, Sept. 29 - Oct.5, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: khafra 03 October 2014 05:17:38PM 3 points [-]

Alien-wise, most of the probability-mass not in the "Great Filter" theory is in the "they're all hiding" theory, right? Are there any other big events in the outcome space?

I intuitively feel like the "they're all hiding" theories are weaker and more speculative than the Great Filter theories, perhaps because including agency as a "black box" within a theory is bad, as a rule of thumb.

But, if most of the proposed candidates for the GF look weak, how do the "they're all hiding" candidates stack up? What is there, besides the Planetarium Hypothesis and Simulationism? Are there any that don't require a strong Singleton?

Comment author: bramflakes 03 October 2014 10:06:28PM 2 points [-]

"They exist but we don't have the tech to detect them"?

Comment author: khafra 04 October 2014 01:03:12AM 2 points [-]

That one shows up in fiction every now and then, but If they're galaxy-spanning, there's no particular reason for them to have avoided eating all the stars unless we're completely wrong about the laws of physics. The motivation might not exactly be "hiding," but it'd have to be something along the lines of a nature preserve; and would require a strong singleton.